REGATTA - Strip Club [Archive]

newsman

01-16-2008, 11:09 PM

By Jay Pateakos
Herald News Staff Reporter
Mon Jan 14, 2008, 11:52 PM EST

Regatta exposes its strip club plan

The owners of the Regatta Restaurant, who currently have an over-21 liquor license, sat in front of the city’s Licensing Board Monday night requesting a license change that would allow an 18 and over crowd and also create an adult entertainment club on part of the premises.
Regatta co-owner Paul Stascavage said the requests are in an attempt to improve the club’s business during the winter months.
According to the application, the adult entertainment license would include full nude dancing, light and floor shows and “theatrical exhibition.”

MadeInUSA

01-18-2008, 11:07 PM

Regatta exposes its strip club plan
The owners of the Regatta Restaurant, who currently have an over-21 liquor license, sat in front of the city’s Licensing Board Monday night requesting a license change that would allow an 18 and over crowd and also create an adult entertainment club on part of the premises.
Regatta co-owner Paul Stascavage said the requests are in an attempt to improve the club’s business during the winter months.
According to the application, the adult entertainment license would include full nude dancing, light and floor shows and “theatrical exhibition.”[/QUOTE]

This place has been operated like a filthy shithole by every owner that's had it. Even the sign out front is filthy, rusted, and rotted. The building is neglected, the parking lot is always full of rubbish, and they have not put a dime into the property. What reason would anyone have to believe that these guys are going to run a clean operation, based on what they are running now? A new license?? This place deserves to be shut down.

WatchinU

01-20-2008, 10:30 AM

Strip club + Providence nightclubs owner = mob and criminal elements.

Has the city checked into the ownership backgrounds of these applicants? The history and reputation of their other nightclubs in Providence? I'm sure the F.R. police department can get some backgound information from Providence for use when considering this application.:cool:

smokeybear81

01-23-2008, 06:07 PM

wre losing factorys busniesses and aging casinos and this . for along time now ive ben thinkin about relocating . i see fall river and other towns in the area goin nowhere but down . not like it was when i was akid . its changed so much and hearing this makes up my mind. thanks for the info on regretta.

Bill

02-05-2008, 01:21 PM

The owners of the Regatta Restaurant, who currently have an over-21 liquor license, sat in front of the city’s Licensing Board Monday night requesting a license change that would allow an 18 and over crowd and also create an adult entertainment club on part of the premises.
Regatta co-owner Paul Stascavage said the requests are in an attempt to improve the club’s business during the winter months.
According to the application, the adult entertainment license would include full nude dancing, light and floor shows and “theatrical exhibition.”

People seem to think that the sex industry (that's what the "adult entertainment" stuff is, after all), alcohol, and casinos are the solution to their problems? On the short term, it might work, but on the long term it brings nothing but trouble.

I drive Davol Street on a regular basis, and I've yet to see more than a few cars in the lot there. Why don't they focus on getting business up year-round? They can't, because the place looks like a dive, and that's all people will think when they look at it.

MadeInUSA

02-10-2008, 09:13 PM

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Wow.. talk about sticking it in our faces. Pretty arrogant for a couple of carpetbaggers from out-of-town. Let's hope our new Mayor and City Council have the backbone to give these guys nothing. They got big mouths, let's see how deep their pockets are.

WatchinU

02-10-2008, 10:45 PM

A simple check on the R.I. Secretary of State website reveals the (2) clubs that Mr. Stascavage runs in Rhode Island. Click on his website link below:
The Eagle & Club Union (both at 200 Union St.) (http://www.providenceeagle.com/index1.html)

Be sure to check out the photo gallery (http://www.providenceeagle.com/EagleWeb2/index.html)on their site
Did they say for sure that these strippers were going to be female? I don't think so.....
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State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
Office of the Secretary of State
Corporations Division
Union Street Inc. Summary Screen
The exact name of the Domestic Profit Corporation: Union Street Inc.
Entity Type: Domestic Profit Corporation
Identification Number: 000144052
Date of Incorporation in Rhode Island:11/22/2004Effective Date:Nov 22 2004
The location of its principal office: No. and Street: 200 UNION STREET
City or Town: PROVIDENCE State: RI Zip: 02903 Country: USA
Name and address of the Registered Agent: No. and Street:200 UNION TREET
City or Town: PROVIDENCE State: RI Zip: 02903-
Name: PAUL STASCAVAGE
PRESIDENT PAUL STASCAVAGE 200 UNION STREET PROVIDENCE, RI 02903
Purpose
BAR, DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT AND SOME FOOD
TITLE: 7-1.1-51

newsman

02-11-2008, 07:26 AM

Click on his website link below:
The Eagle & Club Union (both at 200 Union St.) (http://www.providenceeagle.com/index1.html)
Be sure to check out the photo gallery (http://www.providenceeagle.com/EagleWeb2/index.html)on their site
Did they say for sure that these strippers were going to be female? I don't think so.....
31

Now it makes sense. The applicants stated that the club would be drawing business "from as far as Worcester". Well... Providence is the strip club capital of the Northeast. To get to Fall River from Worcester you need to pass right through Providence, a city that has many, many strip clubs. From the North (Boston), you have strip clubs in Stoughton, and and a high class Foxy Lady in Brockton. Why would people drive past these towns to get to Fall River? They won't. There's a lot more going on here than is being said.
So far I give our new Mayor a big "thumbs up" for his management so far. This may be his first big test to see how he handles this situation.

newsman

02-14-2008, 04:54 AM

Board denies Regatta's bid for a strip club.
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The sign outside the Regatta Restaurant & Club says, “The change is coming.”
But the Licensing Board Wednesday night made sure that won’t involve the addition of a strip club in the foreseeable future.
Citing the “adverse” effects that such a business would have on the “public health, safety or order,” the commissioners denied an application by the Davol Street establishment for an adult entertainment license.

I'm sure they will try to appeal and fight the decision (if they've got the cash that it takes). Based on the dump that they run, these guys appear to be operating "on a shoestring", so maybe they don't have what it takes to fight the city's decision. In any case..a huge THUMBS UP for the Licensing Board.

Cindy78

02-14-2008, 10:59 AM

Hopefully this will not go thru and someone with a good idea will be able to bring the waterfront something tasteful!!!!

MadeInUSA

02-14-2008, 11:53 AM

I think the best idea for the owner of the property would be to hang a "for lease" sign out front, and see what comes along. You never know. Maybe he could find a tenant that's capable of operating a first class establishment of some sort. The big question is.....Will we support it with our business ?
It seams that Fall Riverites are not very supportive of new business that comes to this area. Is it possible that it's true that "nothing really goes in Fall River"? I'm not defending the horrible idea of a strip club there, but the owner of the property must have sizeable investment there, and I can understand that he has to get some income from it. I'm guessing it would take about $700,000 - $1,000,000 to open a decent restuarant or franchise there. How many people would make that type of investment to open a restaurant in Fall River ? Are they lining up now ? ;)

WatchinU

02-17-2008, 05:19 PM

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The sign says.."WE MAY HAVE LOST THE FIGHT WE WILL WIN THE BATTLE"

It's amazing how stupid some people are. What possible purpose could it serve to challenge the entire community to a fight by putting this sign in our faces? They are getting some very poor advice, or more likely, they are acting on their own. The community has been challenged, and it's time to respond. The 1st step would be to drain their income. Pass the word to anyone you know that frequents this place. Stay out of the Regatta.
Watch this place... report everything to the Board of Health, the Fire Dept., or the Police Dept. They are on the water, so the State Environmental Police also have jurisdiction with the marina, discharge into the river, etc.

FRT

02-18-2008, 11:40 AM

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02-20-2008, 11:26 AM

WatchinU

02-21-2008, 10:31 PM

I mean its on the waterfront... your not going to see naked people as you drive by...(although some of you prudes probably should.) It's going to bring in more money to this city... I mean really. What does this city have? A Walmart... a big ship and more welfare than any city should. Why on earth would a high end resturant come here? Theres no money here.

Have you ever noticed that if you want to go to a bookstore you have to drive to Providence or Dartmouth?? Does that tell you something about the area?

My point is it doesnt make a difference if there is a strip club or not. There wont be mass robberies and people getting shot in the streets because of people getting naked in a club. People might do drugs... but trust me, there are much worst things happening in the city. Get over it people.

The point is...The waterfront is a family place, especially in the summer. The kids sail from the nearby boathouse. They play in the big lawn. They fish from the boardwalk. It's just too close for comfort.
Yes..you have to drive out of town for a big bookstore. You also have to drive out of town for a big BJ's, Marshalls, a movie theatre and a bowling alley. So whats your point? Fall River doesn't have it all? Granted, you win that arguement.
I'm from Providence and 15 years ago it was just as disgusting as Fall River. And than Buddy Cianci came in and started the rebuilding of Providence that it is today. Why do you think it can't ever happen in Fall River? Should our leaders just "throw in the towel" because of negative people like you?
Please tell us what is "much worse things than drugs" in Fall River? What do you consider "much worse" than drugs and the crime and quality of life issues that come with the drugs?
And please explain how a strip club will bring "more money" to the city? The property is already on the tax rolls, the liquor tax is State, the payroll taxes are State, the owners and management are from R.I. Perhaps the tourists that are drawn to Fall River for the strip club will tour the Lizzy Borden House first, eat at Almacs Diner next, fill their gas up at our Hess, and than blow whats left at the strip club?
And please.... intelligent answers only.

FRT

02-21-2008, 10:56 PM

Paul Stascavage and his partners are going to take on the city themselves. It's apparent that they don't have the cash it takes to wage an effective legal battle, so the strip club brain trust will represent themselves.

Paul Stascavage, one of the three men involved in the plans to convert the waterfront restaurant and nightclub, said the Licensing Board used incorrect information when it denied The Regatta a license for adult entertainment.
Stascavage said the board cited innacurate information when it said a redeveloped Regatta would house three businesses: a strip club, a restaurant and a nightclub.

“Are we going to go forward? Yes, we are,” Stascavage said. “Are we going to get this? Yes, we are.” [Are we stupid and dillusional? Yes we are !]

Stascavage said he and his partners are trying to advance the project without involving attorneys in an attempt to keep costs down, both for themselves and the city.[TRANSLATION- "we're broke"}
[If they are so concerned about the taxpayers money, how about they offer to reimburse the city for every call that has sent police and fire to their business?]

“If we can handle this ourselves, that’s what we want to do. But if an attorney needs to step in, then that’s what we’ll do,” Stascavage said.
[I don't think Legal Aid represents strip clubs]

“If that’s the way it’s going to go, then may the best man win. But why should the taxpayers have to pay for this? Without attorneys it will save money for ourselves and the city; that’s why we’re trying to be gentlemen and do this on our own here.” [TRANSLATION- Lets scare the public into thinking it's going to cost them a lot of money to fight us. Meanwhile they don't know that we don't have a pot to piss in]

With or without attorneys, Stascavage predicted, adult entertainment will be in place by June. [ 3 months from now. hmmm.. seems realistic to me]

If in place, Stascavage said the club will be staffed with proper security personnel [TRANSLATION- Bouncers with felony records] and maintains his position that the business will be a boon to the city’s economic development. He also said criticism over the concept of having the business on the waterfront is unfounded.
“Who’s to say where is the right place and where is the wrong place?,” he said. [ANSWER- The City, that's who.]

shamrock

02-21-2008, 11:35 PM

Great investigating WatchinU!!! A gay strip club combined with Correia's new city motto "Pride City Wide" and his desire for trolleys would make Fall River a very fabulous San Francisco-like atmosphere.

fallriverpeach

02-24-2008, 04:04 PM

A. Has anyone ever seen an area "improve" with the presence of a strip club??
B. Do we really want to "draw" droolers and johns from the surrounding areas??
C. The Regatta area is a waterfront, city park, family area.....would you want children
or grandmother near there??
D. Does it work in anyone's mind that "cleaning up Fall River" would be accomplished
by adding trash??

Todd

03-22-2008, 01:09 AM

It is good to see that there are others feeling the same way. I do not want to have any strip zones or clubs around here. Straight out, women getting used in that way bothers me, exploited, used and abused by another for money. I would rather see that person have a good career and life making a living wage in another profession.

Feeling that Fall River’s community can be built by hard work and by people just coming together, things will eventually change for the better.

Bob1008

03-23-2008, 11:07 AM

William Canning Blvd. From Tucker Street to Anthony Street.

Reasons Below:

a) This is the "retail mile" from Benny's to Walmart. It's all very high rent retail.

b) The landlords that own these strip malls and shopping centers would never rent to a strip club. They would lose other "legitimate" tenants.
Landlords know the pitfalls of renting to nightclubs of any sort.

c) If a strip club was able to find a location here, it would be squeezed between other retailers and would not stand out. Similar to the Kings Inn on Route 6. You ride by and don't even give it a second thought. The city controls signage permits and could limit their visibility.

d) It'd be pretty difficult for people that shouldn't be here (people on company or city/state time) to hide at a location with such easy visibility.

Think about it...this does make sense. :rolleyes:

Markster300

04-05-2008, 12:40 AM

Bob1008

04-05-2008, 08:39 AM

I think that we need to not allow strip clubs in a area of the City that has family functions throughout the year. What is wrong with this picture, the Heritage Park, Battleship, a Refurbished Merry Go Round (Carousel )
Great place to bring our children and have a strip club right next door.
The strip clubs if they allow any should be on Airport Road etc. away from families, Residential neoghborhoods and not smack in the middle of our city! This shouldn't even be in front of any board, it should just be NO! Move on to another territory! Man, give me a chance, I'll clean this City up! :D

I agree Mark. But unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The only way this battle can be won is with a good plan. The city has to provide a zone that is reasonable (not in the middle of the woods). I think the new administration will develop a strategy that serves the city's interest and also meets the requirements needed for this type of business. I don't know that for sure, but from what I read, I think their on the right track.

shamrock

04-05-2008, 01:38 PM

The city may zone as they deem necessary to protect the public's health, safety, morals, or general welfare. If these elements can only be satisfied by putting an adult entertainment zone in the middle of nowhere, then so be it. The city has the police power to do so. They do not need to negotiate with the potential club owners about what is "reasonable" for them.

Zoning by the city is constitutional even though it may adversely affect the value of an individual title holder's interest to land. The contention by these potential strip club operators that they would burdened by not being permitted to run a club where they would prefer to, or where they consider "reasonable" is a nonargument as the city's interest prevails over theirs.

SmartBusiness

04-05-2008, 06:47 PM

The city may zone as they deem necessary to protect the public's health, safety, morals, or general welfare. If these elements can only be satisfied by putting an adult entertainment zone in the middle of nowhere, then so be it.
The contention by these potential strip club operators that they would burdened by not being permitted to run a club where they would prefer to, or where they consider "reasonable" is a nonargument as the city's interest prevails over theirs.

I have to respectfully disagree with you. From everything I've read on the subject, and past court rulings, the area zoned must "pass muster". Not with the potential strip club owners, or landowners, but with the spirit of the law and constitutional right for this type of business to operate. The zone must have reasonable acreage, access, and utilities for the business category to establish itself and operate. I believe this was already tested (and I could be mistaken) when the Lambert administration tried to establish an adult zone somewhere on the reservation with no access and utilities. In any case, everything I've read indicates that the selected zone must meet generally accepted standards for the location of a business that caters to the public.

shamrock

04-05-2008, 10:24 PM

I am relatively new to the area and I am unfamiliar with any attempt by Lambert to establish adult zones on a reservation but I would imagine that zoning on a reservation introduces an entirely new set of issues.

Yes, zoning must be constitutional. I did not mean to suggest that the area should not have access to utilities, but as far as I know, all areas in Fall River have potential access to utilities. Regarding my comment that the city has the right to “put it in the middle of nowhere”….as far as I know, Fall River doesn’t have a ‘middle of nowhere,’ it is highly developed and populous and my comment was merely to suggest that the city has the authority to zone for adult entertainment anywhere they deem necessary to protect the public's health, safety, morals, or general welfare; if that should be in an area that is not particularly friendly to businesses then so be it.

I am not opposed to nude dancing establishments in the city. I feel the city has wasted much time and money fighting them but I don’t think the city should be urged to make any concessions to the health, safety, morals, or general welfare of the city when zoning for such a business. Cities have successfully enforced prohibitions on nude dancing entirely under the scrutiny of the Supreme Court (see City of Erie v. Pap’s A.M., 120 S. Ct. 1382 2000), so I don’t see any issue having a heightened standard for zoning here in Fall River.

SmartBusiness

04-05-2008, 10:42 PM

Yes, zoning must be constitutional. I did not mean to suggest that the area should not have access to utilities, but as far as I know, all areas in Fall River have potential access to utilities. Regarding my comment that the city has the right to “put it in the middle of nowhere”….as far as I know, Fall River doesn’t have a ‘middle of nowhere,’ it is highly developed and populous and my comment was merely to suggest that the city has the authority to zone for adult entertainment anywhere they deem necessary to protect the public's health, safety, morals, or general welfare; if that should be in an area that is not particularly friendly to businesses then so be it.

I am not opposed to nude dancing establishments in the city. I feel the city has wasted much time and money fighting them but I don’t think the city should be urged to make any concessions to the health, safety, morals, or general welfare of the city when zoning for such a business. Cities have successfully enforced prohibitions on nude dancing entirely under the scrutiny of the Supreme Court (see City of Erie v. Pap’s A.M., 120 S. Ct. 1382 2000), so I don’t see any issue having a heightened standard for zoning here in Fall River.

Ahh. I see. We are on the same page. But, yes Fall River does have a "middle of nowhere". I may be mistaken, but if I remember right, the Lambert administration did try to make the adult entertainment zone in the middle of the reservation at the north end of the city. I believe it was declared unconstitutional because it had no utilities, and no access roads.
I am absolutely in agreement that the city should stick this zone somewhere that has the least amount of visibilty and make it as obscure as possible.

semass

04-07-2008, 04:51 PM

I did not mean to suggest that the area should not have access to utilities, but as far as I know, all areas in Fall River have potential access to utilities. Regarding my comment that the city has the right to “put it in the middle of nowhere”….as far as I know, Fall River doesn’t have a ‘middle of nowhere,’ it is highly developed and populous ...

Actually, about half of the city could be considered in the middle of nowhere. The entire area of the city east of North Watuppa is just about equal in size to the highly developed part. That area includes part of the Freetown-Fall River State Forest, the North Watuppa watershed area and the former Acushnet Saw Mill property which are all part of the bioreserve.

In the second picture from the bioreserve website at the bottom is the Copicut Reservior on the city's eastern border with Dartmouth. Above that is "nowhere", above that the Watuppa Ponds, above that the developed area and at the top Mount Hope Bay and the Taunton River.

shamrock

04-07-2008, 06:44 PM

I suppose "middle of nowhere" is a subjective geographic designation, but I personally don't consider the "middle of nowhere" to be located within a short drive to a dunkin donuts.

I certainly wouldn't suggest putting a strip club in a bioreserve. On that note, the wildlife in the bioreserve have benefitted from zoning intended to protect them, I merely expect the same zoning considerations when it comes to people.

newsman

04-17-2008, 10:07 AM

There was an interesting article today in the Herald News regarding the Regatta. See the link below:
http://www.heraldnews.com/news/local_news/x121157174

Below are a couple of interesting quotes from the article.

“Who could have known we needed a permit to fix our deck?” Stascavage said, noting the building inspector gave no such listing with his March 10 violation notice.
This guy doesn't know that you need a permit to build/replace a deck, and yet we trust him to properly regulate a liquor license?

“We’re getting our b--- busted because of the adult entertainment license," he said.
You sure are! How's it feel?

“We believe it’s coming from higher-ups,” Ciorlano said at The Herald News after their Government Center meeting
Brilliant conclusion! Who'd you think it was coming from..the Dog Catcher? Two Thumbs UP to Mayor Correia for handling this the way it should be !

justoprov401

06-15-2008, 01:58 PM

KriSsy

06-26-2008, 08:51 PM

the regatta doesn't make a great places from a strip club but who cares. Fall river will alwas be dirty and fall river doesnt really have a area like providence has to make like like the down town. The mass state spends all of its money on the boston area leaven cities like fall river, new bedford, worcestor and springfield alone so all the factories leave and u end up with a bunch of big dirty ass closed down factorys.

Why so much hostility? Are you sooo angry because you want an establishment like "The Eagle Providence" away from where you live so all your PEEPS wont see you walk in? That wouldn't be cool, would it...

The reason people from "Fall River" don't want a business like that in their city is because it will attract the TRASH from other cities.

Have you taken a walk in that area? If you have then you would know that it is situated only feet from a park.. where families gather.. Where our Fourth of July is celebrated... where "Fall River" Celebrate's America.. All "FAMILY" orriented. Sounds like a good idea to walk your child passed a strip club on your way to a canival.... hummmm? NO!

If "Fall River" is so dirty, then why are you on this site or even care about what happens here?

Stick to what you know, Providence. Because we all know it is so much more clean, and safe.

Sean Fensel Imposter

08-08-2008, 02:15 PM

Builder

08-08-2008, 08:20 PM

A strip club would provide jobs to the thousands of single mothers in Fall River that are now on welfare.

Dancing is good exercise as well, so it would keep healthcare costs down over the long run.

In addition, we do not know if it would be only female dancing. Perhaps male exotic dancing would be allowed as well.

Please tell me you are not serious.

A) "Thousands" of jobs ? Try 20-30. And who will be watching these single mothers kids while their out selling peek-a-boo pussy all night? Their responsible alcoholic, drug-using, non-working, boyfriends?

B) Rubbing your bare ass on guys peckers at 2 a.m. in the morning will not have an effect on health care costs. Trust me on that one.

KoopaTroopa

08-08-2008, 08:38 PM

I'm watching this thread now more closely ;)

Sean Fensel Imposter

08-11-2008, 04:25 PM

Please tell me you are not serious.

A) "Thousands" of jobs ? Try 20-30. And who will be watching these single mothers kids while their out selling peek-a-boo pussy all night? Their responsible alcoholic, drug-using, non-working, boyfriends?

B) Rubbing your bare ass on guys peckers at 2 a.m. in the morning will not have an effect on health care costs. Trust me on that one.

Would the bar be open at 2 am?

A) Thousands of jobs once you figure in that we could have an adult "district" with several of these clubs. Figure in security, cleaning, dancers, bar maids, managment, etc....

Also, figure in the delivery drivers for beer, the people that load the trucks, the people that manage all of these people, etc....

There is not much else going on. Why not let the people enjoy their constitutional right to a strip club?

folriva

08-11-2008, 09:45 PM

If you remember the Combat Zone on Washing St. in Boston, about 30 years ago, you wouldn't be wishing this evil setting to pollute Fall River. Thousands of jobs? The only jobs generated from this would be for pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers, liqueur stores and hook-up-shacks with a few rooms rented out for an hour. E R doctors, lawyers and police would be in greater demand. 2:00 am? Yeah, that's when it starts, all hell breaks loose. Thousands of I'll-do-it-for-crack, show-me-your wallet and I'll-show-you-my-p@#$y, will-work-for-booze, get-my-mommy-off-welfare, jobs? If you're not serious, then I'll try to be more comical on the next post.
http://usera.imagecave.com/mtalbum/FallRiverTalks/drunk.jpg
Hey babe, who's ya daddy?

unfortunate_son

08-12-2008, 09:01 AM

If you remember the Combat Zone on Washing St. in Boston, about 30 years ago, you wouldn't be wishing this evil setting to pollute Fall River. Thousands of jobs? The only jobs generated from this would be for pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers, liqueur stores and hook-up-shacks with a few rooms rented out for an hour. E R doctors, lawyers and police would be in greater demand. 2:00 am? Yeah, that's when it starts, all hell breaks loose. Thousands of I'll-do-it-for-crack, show-me-your wallet and I'll-show-you-my-p@#, will-work-for-booze, get-my-mommy-off-welfare, jobs? If you're not serious, then I'll try to be more comical on the next post.
http://usera.imagecave.com/mtalbum/FallRiverTalks/drunk.jpg
Hey babe, who's ya daddy?

YOU SAID IT, folriva!!!

cbaker

08-13-2008, 04:04 AM

I remember the zone well. Washington/Essex.

Fall River already has crack mommas and the like - Check the police log sometime.

Some of the crack mommas - I'll-do-it-for-crack, show-me-your wallet and I'll-show-you-my-p@# - are pretty good at basketball.

BlaiddDrwg

08-24-2008, 02:48 AM

Why can't we just end this charade? Where do we get off? A gritty city full of underemployed and unemployed residents can't make room for one titty bar in ten years?

Put it where it belongs, in the Industrial Park. Paul Viveiros has the perfect spot for it, and the ordinance can be crafted to effectively allow only one club, his. How stupid exactly are our councilors and mayor?

Oh wait, I forgot. They're pandering to the 'interests' in the Industrial Park, meaning those who employ people who will likely visit the long awaited nudie bar (myself included). 'We can't have our employees going out and enjoying themselves,' they think, 'because they might come back with the gumption to ask for raises. And then we'll have to accelerate our relocation plans once our TIFs run out.' Ah, the state of business in Fall River. Can you smell the toxins in the air?

folriva

08-25-2008, 05:07 PM

I have my own private titty bar, but you can't come.

http://usera.imagecave.com/mtalbum/FallRiverTalks/married.jpg

http://www.43things.com/things/view/135/get-married

kidhenry

08-27-2008, 10:31 AM

The citizens of any community have to decide what type of community they want to be. If you invite sleaze into an area, it will naturally permeate the community. If you promote civic pride and activites that can be enjoyed with the lights on, it will flourish. Times Square is the best example of this. What was once a pit of prostitution and druggies is now showcased on national TV every morning. Fall River needs to decide what kind of community it wants to be. You can't have it both ways, with the wholesome side of town and the sleazy side of town. Once the citizens start to get a taste of the skin show, more and more people will succumb to the sleaze and within a few years, the whole city will have the reputation that Providence now has. Yes, Waterfire and the mall are very nice, but everyone knows that the sleazy underground is everywhere.